P3D V5.2 - Not perfect - Black textures!

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P3D V5.2 - Not perfect - Black textures!

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So, updated the client and content to V5.2 and it's smooth and looking good however it's not perfect and still having problems. Even when I remove the shadows and have a clean saved file generated and still getting it. I then removed Rex 5 textures and that also did not resolve.

I have orbx scenery and it seems that orbx scenery is loading just fine and flying really fast and the orbx scenery or just scenery is loading up fast also. However when I spawn at an airport with any aircraft, I use the F18 default jet to test, the aircraft and airport is all black textures and takes time for scenery in the distance to popup and very slow you can see parts of the airport scenery loading and yet the aircraft is black.

after playing in the sim and change aircraft I'm able to get the texture back however when flying the F18 some parts are still blackout.

No idea if it's me and how the settings are, or third-party making it going none loading.
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Re: P3D V5.2 - Not perfect - Black textures!

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im having the exact same issue also for some reason when i go to an payware airport instead of 40fps in 5.1 im now getting 7 so textures wont load properly
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donkey20048 wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:17 am I'm having the exact same issue also for some reason when I go to a payware airport instead of 40fps in 5.1 I'm now getting 7 so textures won't load properly
I'm getting 60 FPS and getting nothing loading in at times, Have you spawn at a default airport? I also did and seems to be the same again.
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Re: P3D V5.2 - Not perfect - Black textures!

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Hello,

We've seen reports of the AIG or various shader add-ons like EnvShade potentially having performance impacts in 5.2, do you have anything similar to these installed currently?

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Not getting any performance impact, I do not use EnvShade, but do use Rex sky force for P3d, Then again no idea if I did edit the files, and so might need new VolumeticClouds.cfg file, I retest.
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UPDATE

Loading right into EGNX
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After 1mins to a max of 5mins, almost everything around is loading yet back aircraft
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I guess it's the first run after shaders where cleaned out and depending on you system hardware, GPU, drive and CPU, it takes a bit time to build the shaders (only 1x at the first run).

Are you sure about the 5 minutes? Because that seem not normal to me and I myself have never experienced this. But 20 to 30 seconds I can imagine.

After this, even if you restart P3Dy this should be much quicker.

Can you try this?

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MPO910 wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:19 pm I guess it's the first run after shaders where cleaned out and depending on you system hardware, GPU, drive and CPU, it takes a bit time to build the shaders (only 1x at the first run).

Are you sure about the 5 minutes? Because that seem not normal to me and I myself have never experienced this. But 20 to 30 seconds I can imagine.

After this, even if you restart P3Dy this should be much quicker.

Can you try this?

Marcus
Clean and removed my shaders twice and fresh files get installed, however, does it every time I load the P3D up, even with no shaders removed. scenery loads up first and fasts then after a while airport loads in, runway loads in. Just around 2mins if it's having a good time, but the aircraft just black.

But it's like that everytime I load
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EmpireKicking wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:25 pm
MPO910 wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:19 pm I guess it's the first run after shaders where cleaned out and depending on you system hardware, GPU, drive and CPU, it takes a bit time to build the shaders (only 1x at the first run).

Are you sure about the 5 minutes? Because that seem not normal to me and I myself have never experienced this. But 20 to 30 seconds I can imagine.

After this, even if you restart P3Dy this should be much quicker.

Can you try this?

Marcus
Clean and removed my shaders twice and fresh files get installed, however, does it every time I load the P3D up, even with no shaders removed. scenery loads up first and fasts then after a while airport loads in, runway loads in. Just around 2mins if it's having a good time, but the aircraft just black.

But it's like that everytime I load
Ok. Thanks for your response.
Please do us a favor and clock twice and post the time from hitting start a flight till fully loaded DEFAULT scenario with F35 at KRND.

Between the clocks
Stop and close P3Dy
Delete shaders

THIS would really help us to understand how long this takes exactly.

Thanks a lot. Appreciated this
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MPO910 wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:33 pm Ok. Thanks for your response.
Please do us a favor and clock twice and post the time from hitting start a flight till fully loaded DEFAULT scenario with F35 at KRND.

Between the clocks
Stop and close P3Dy
Delete shaders

THIS would really help us to understand how long this takes exactly.

Thanks a lot. Appreciated this
Loading F35 at KRND and all is good loading speeds good, and no black on aircraft and scenery. Loading back at EGNX and black again takes just under 1mins for airport scenery, however.

Delete shaders, spawn at KRND, waited 1min till loaded fully, some black spots on the aircraft, like the wheels and under and when POWER up no afterburner.


Seems that some airports are being pooped and others. Also, spawn A320 aerosoft at YDGA - Loading and see no black at all, then almost 45secs after loaded it went black, aircraft and runaway is now all black.....

Try update drivers next then,
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i've been having the same problem, uninstalling v5,2 content and reinstalling v5.1 hf2 content it's working again, i'll leave the content as is untill a fix is found
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@ EmpireKicking ,

I went to EGNX and the default F-35 loaded up there ok in 11 seconds.
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I am having the exact same problems as those here.
so far I have:

- Completely re-installed V5,2
- Completely re-installed Nvidia driver (rolled back 3 versions - no change) to latest version.
- Program starts with about 30 FPS and slowly goes down to 6 - 8
- Re-boot system
- un-check EA
- Shutdown AS

I also have a dark cockpit on the FSDT 788. Change resolution in Graphic setting to High and the cockpit brightens up. Turn back to Medium and the cockpit stays bright but may darken at any time.

Noticed a distinct lowering of Vram usage. Of my 6 Gb I usually ran at 4.1 in V5,1 Now it's down to 3.5

All settings were the same as v5.1 where I had no issues except for large Vram usage

Something has definitely changed with the graphics.
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EKOTAMIKE2 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:01 am I am having the exact same problems as those here.
so far I have:

- Completely re-installed V5,2
- Completely re-installed Nvidia driver (rolled back 3 versions - no change) to latest version.
- Program starts with about 30 FPS and slowly goes down to 6 - 8
- Re-boot system
- un-check EA
- Shutdown AS

I also have a dark cockpit on the FSDT 788. Change resolution in Graphic setting to High and the cockpit brightens up. Turn back to Medium and the cockpit stays bright but may darken at any time.

Noticed a distinct lowering of Vram usage. Of my 6 Gb I usually ran at 4.1 in V5,1 Now it's down to 3.5

All settings were the same as v5.1 where I had no issues except for large Vram usage

Something has definitely changed with the graphics.
@ EKOTAMIKE2 ,

What is FSDT 788?
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Re: P3D V5.2 - Not perfect - Black textures!

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Hello,

Im also having this issue, I would try what @hermes82 suggested but I don't have v 5.1 content anymore. Really wish P3D left the old installers up for a bit. I'm on the latest Nvidia driver. Managed to do DTW-MBS-DTW the other day in the CRJ 9 I don't know how I did that because now I can't fly anything. The cockpit goes back almost right after startup of the sim

Any ideas?
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